Skip to content
Loomis, Sayles & Company

Extra Credit

By the Full Discretion Team 
As of June 3, 2025
Keep Your CHIN Up: A Helpful Insight for Understanding High Yield Risk Premia

 

Key Takeaways
  • Loomis Sayles’ Applied IQ team created a proprietary tool called the Credit Health Index, or CHIN, that provides a forward-looking view of corporate health.
  • The CHIN is a key input into the Full Discretion team’s top-down risk framework. By utilizing the CHIN’s output to calculate the estimated high yield risk premium, we can gauge whether investors are being compensated for their credit risk.
  • We have seen greater compression and more volatility in the CHIN since the start of 2025, which has impacted our forecast for losses in high yield.

A Forward-Looking Common Language

When it comes to assessing value in the high yield market, we believe the big picture is essential. For the Full Discretion team, and other Loomis Sayles fixed income investors, the big picture means analyzing where we are in the credit cycle and calculating the current high yield risk premium, defined as the high yield market’s option-adjusted spread (OAS) less our forecasted one-year-forward downgrade and default loss. The combination of where we are in the credit cycle and how much high yield risk premium is available gives us a clear vision of how much risk we should be taking.

To better understand the potential for credit losses from downgrades and defaults, our Applied IQ team created a proprietary tool called the Credit Health Index, or CHIN. The CHIN is a macroeconomic research tool that gives us a forward-looking view of corporate health. The tool creates a foundation for our team to estimate the expected losses due to downgrades and defaults over the coming 12 months, which we then use to calculate the estimated current risk premium. It assists us in looking through a vast range of economic data points to focus primarily on what drives returns in the credit markets.

How it Works

The CHIN uses multi-faceted layers of data, covering macro fundamentals, policy and interest rates, as well as bottom-up credit fundamentals, such as leverage, profitability and interest coverage. The CHIN framework scales our view of the credit markets across a variety of indicators, informing our expectations for future losses from downgrades and defaults. When the CHIN is high, it indicates low expected future losses, and vice versa. We then compare the CHIN’s output with today’s spread levels to calculate the estimated high yield risk premium, which helps us gauge whether investors are currently being compensated for the risk of investing in credit versus US Treasury bonds. 

Where is the CHIN Now? 

As shown in the chart below, while the CHIN remained fairly consistent in 2024, we have seen greater compression and more volatility in the CHIN since the start of 2025. The scale of the recently announced tariffs has caused us to increase the odds of our stallflation scenario, and the impact of this shows up in our forecast for losses in high yield. We now expect the CHIN to hold between 0.0 and 0.3. This range of CHIN levels equates to losses over the next 12 months in the high yield market of 230-280bps.

One bright spot, in our view, has been bottom-up corporate fundamentals. Bottom-up fundamentals have remained very strong and are keeping the CHIN from getting too bearish on forward losses. This area of strength should help create a ceiling on how wide spreads can go in a market sell off.

June32025
Source: Loomis Sayles, data shown from of 12/1/1977 - 4/30/2025.
The Credit Health Index (CHIN) is a macro tool created by Loomis Sayles. The CHIN is currently managed by the Loomis Sayles Applied IQ team. It is proprietary framework that utilizes a combination of macro, financial market and policy variables to project US corporate health. A higher reading indicates stronger corporate health whereas a lower reading indicates weaker corporate health.

What Can the CHIN Tell Us About the High Yield Market?

Using the history of the CHIN and the implied estimated risk premium, we can look back at periods similar to today’s market valuations to see how the high yield sector performed. As of April 30, 2025, we estimated the risk premium to be around 130bps (385bps of OAS minus 255bps of estimated losses due to downgrades and defaults). Looking at the data in the chart below, that level is below the median risk premium through the cycle of 200bps and well below the levels shown that have historically resulted in outsized forward returns in the high yield market.

However, managing market timing can be very challenging. Our models forecast a 48% chance of positive excess returns over the next six months. Opportunities for very strong returns like those in the chart below do not occur often., In our opinion, we believe investors should consider moderately leaning into credit risk for any potential extra carry pick-up, while also maintaining some extra liquidity to take advantage of spread widening events like what occurred in April.

June32025-2

*Calculated as in excess of Treasurys.
Source: Loomis Sayles, Bloomberg, as of 4/30/2025.
The chart presented above is shown for illustrative purposes only. Some or all of the information on this chart may be dated, and, therefore, should not be the basis to purchase or sell any securities. The information is not intended to represent any actual portfolio managed by Loomis Sayles.
Indices are unmanaged and do not incur fees. It is not possible to invest directly in an index.
Markets may behave very differently than history suggests, it is not possible for any methodology to accurately identify and interpret all relevant market events.
Any investment that has the possibility for profits also has the possibility of losses, including the loss of principal.
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

Tying It All Together: Full Discretion’s View

The CHIN is a key input into the Full Discretion team’s top-down risk framework. We also stress the variables that are inputs to the CHIN to see how the index may change over the next 6-12 months based on the team’s forward-looking macroeconomic scenarios. With the potential for slower growth and higher inflation, we see the CHIN being pinned close to zero. However strong bottom-up fundamentals keep us from forecasting the CHIN to break below zero, which is what is what would be necessary to get spreads out to levels typically experienced in a downturn or recession.

It is important to note that markets may behave very differently than history suggests and it is not possible for any methodology to accurately identify and interpret all relevant market events. While we believe there is value in the high yield corporate market, we think investors should remain poised to take advantage of spread widening events given the wide range of outcomes on growth, inflation and the path of interest rates.

Important Disclosure

This marketing communication is provided for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. It is meant to offer a snapshot of select market developments and is not a complete summary of all market activities. Investment decisions should consider the individual circumstances of the particular investor. Any opinions or forecasts contained herein reflect subjective judgments and assumptions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Loomis, Sayles & Company, L. P. Investment recommendations may be inconsistent with these opinions. There can be no assurance that developments will transpire as forecasted. Data and analysis does not represent the actual or expected future performance of any investment strategy, account or individual positions. Accuracy of data is not guaranteed but represents our best judgment and can be derived from a variety of sources. Opinions are subject to change at any time without notice.

Commodity, interest and derivative trading involves substantial risk of loss.

Diversification does not ensure a profit or guarantee against a loss.

Market conditions are extremely fluid and change frequently.

Any investment that has the possibility for profits also has the possibility of losses, including loss of principal.

There is no guarantee that any investment objective will be realized, or that the strategy will be able to generate any positive or excess returns.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

For Institutional Use Only. Not For Further Distribution

SAIFop6axgdh

Meet the Managers

The Full Discretion team is made up of 28 professionals with 23+ years average of investment experience globally.

 

Meet the Managers

MattEagan-2

Matt Eagan, CFA

Head of Full Discretion, Portfolio Manager

BrianKennedy-2

Brian Kennedy

Portfolio Manager

PeterSheehan

Peter Sheehan

Portfolio Manager, Credit Strategist

MichaelKlawitter

Michael Klawitter, CFA

Portfolio Manager, Bank Loans Strategist

HeatherYoung-1

Heather Young, CFA

Portfolio Manager, Bank Loans Strategist

EricWilliams

Eric Williams

Portfolio Manager

BryanHazelton-1

Bryan Hazelton, CFA

Portfolio Manager, Associate Portfolio Manager, Investment Grade Strategist

ChristopherRomanelli

Chris Romanelli, CFA

Portfolio Manager, Associate Portfolio Manager, High Yield Corporate Strategist

ScottDarci-1

Scott Darci, CFA

Portfolio Manager, Associate Portfolio Manager, Convertibles & Equity Strategist

DavidZielinski-1

David Zielinski, CFA

Investment Director

CherylStober-1

Cheryl Stober

Investment Director

KristenDoyle-4

Kristen Doyle

Associate Investment Director

Frozen, frothy, and everything in between.

The Full Discretion Approach to Credit Selection

During our decades as bond investors, we’ve managed through all sorts of credit conditions. And we have consistently observed that the market is inefficient at pricing-specific risk.

We use repeatable credit selection strategies to capitalize on this persistent inefficiency and drive excess return potential.

Line work for web-square-01
Recent Blog Posts

LandScape